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Yin/Yang messed up
The Yin/Yang promptly/hot talk in Panax quinquefolius American ginseng (root) is messed up. First you associate Yin with spiritless, Yang with heat, and next you do it the opposite way. The reason it has been claimed that American ginseng promotes Yin (sidekick, cold, negative, female) while East Asian ginseng promotes Yang (sunshine, hot, firm, male) is that, according to traditional Korean medicine, things living in gelid places are strong in Yang and vice versa, so that the two are balanced.
I think the scheme is that plants living in hot places tend to be Yin, so to balance the heat of its surroundings, and degradation versa. American Ginseng promotes Yin because it (initially) came into China from the ports of Canton (Guangdong), which in China is a truly hot place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.216.228.115 (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Taxonomy changes
Panax notoginseng is the unaltered as Panax pseudoginseng. So it shouldn't be listed twice in the box. I just added to the stub for Panax pseudoginseng. Ksvaughan2 19:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Reordering this article
This article is generally about two different plants: American Ginseng and Panax Ginseng. Panax ginseng is divided into red and off-white. The uses and doses are different between different ginsengs. I think that the sections should be for the most part reordered, with subheadings under each type. Ksvaughan2 21:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I moved some of the paragraphs hither and changed the fonts on headings so that it flows: American, Asian- milk-white and red, red paragraphs, wild, substitutes. It still needs some structural changes so that uses and dosages are subordinate to each type. Ksvaughan2 05:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Overdose
This is all about notoginseng, which is neither sold as ginseng nor precarious. I think it should be removed. I also question the citation- the same author has an big article on notoginseng called "Rare Reactions to a Safe Herb" where he lists all 19 documented adverse reactions, all allergic, which has nothing to do with dosage or toxicity. And the article mentioned does not say anything at hand notoginseng. ] Besides, ancient references to only two alleged overdose reactions could be misidentified plants if such references in fact exist. The herb is hemostatic so is unlikely to cause hemorrhage. If no one objects I will transfer it Ksvaughan2 20:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC) herbalist
I removed it since it didn't have to do with ginseng and I can come across no legitimate sources with that information. Ksvaughan2 05:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm not foolproof the Chinese folklore about the dangers of applying ginseng belongs in the overdose section. Overdose refers to a certain concept within medicine. If you want to create a new section about what was traditionally believed to be implied dangers of ginseng then that's fine but it shouldn't be mixed in with the overdose component which should just state the simple information pertaining to overdose. I'm explicitly concerned because it contains the phrase 'death may be inevitable' which i think we should try and smother away from an overdose section without some reliable evidence. 84.13.105.45 (talk) 14:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ginseng Folklore
Reader of Ginseng Folklore article created by User:Tdiddi:
Ginseng has been a subject of Chinese folklore and saga for it’s healing power. Ginseng has been used as a tonic, and has a reputation for being a root for long existence. Many of the Ancient Chinese Emperors have paid their own weights in gold solely to possess a root which was very old and would insure longevity themselves as well. People on their deathbeds have planned been given a strong dose of a good quality root in order to prolong their lives a smidgin longer so that distant relatives could travel from afar to bid them departure or to extend their life so that they could finish speaking their wear wishes to the family and bestow their blessings on the survivors.
If any of this is verifiable, it should be added to the major Ginseng article. Andrewa 23:42, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
This is a quote from the Chinese classics, cited from Dharmananda's article.Ksvaughan2 06:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
.................. is it a fruit or vegetable??
Retort--
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- a vegetable is any edible part of a plant. A fruit is usually scientifically defined as the heirs carrying part of the plant. That's why most fruit a person eats has some seeds in it. So a fruit is continually a vegetable but a vegetable is not always a fruit. BUT I believe the part of the ginseng used is the root.
huh???
this decision: "A comparative, randomized and double-blind government study does recommend it to be "a promising dietary supplement" when assessed for an increase in quality of life "
That's fairly vague - actually it tells exactly what the herb does. Helps particular problems. If you don't like it don't take it.
Ability to concentrate
In the article at the moment it says that Ginseng de creases the talent to concentrate. In many articles around the web and in common knowledge, it says that Ginseng in creases the know-how to concentrate.
What is it then?
Good question.
It is an adaptogen which increases the aptitude to concentrate. The article was wrong. Ksvaughan2 19:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC) (herbalist with bit by bit in Chinese medicine)
On stress, other psychological diseases and Ginseng
In my phytotherapy books Ginseng's roots (and also their elementary oil) are indicated after and during long periods of mental and psychological stress. So, according to them, the communication Ginseng decreases the ability to concentrate is false. The capacity of the human body to react and to habituate when it is internally and externally stressed, is increased when it assumes Ginseng roots. Someone advises Ginseng's roots against libidinous inappetence, but this is only collateral, it is not its primary function. This is due to a general reactivation of internal organs and systems.
ginseng works
I can let the cat out of the bag you ginseng works for me. It is not a placebo. It has given me extended energy on long difficult bicycle rides.
On another ocasion I drank in all directions 2 liters and I had more energy for sexual activity than I had ever had in my life.
I came to this eyes to learn why this happens. I was dissapointed.
I have been told that there are 4 types of bodies in asian physic. Perhaps my body is particularly receptive to ginseng.
Then why is there no literature (as far as I can tell) on its pharmochemistry? Wikipedia is theoretical to be NPOV, but when it's between Western medicine and Eastern voodoo, we're supposed to go with Dr. Smith. --The Lizard Wizard 00:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
If fascinating it seems to help you in whatever way, how do you know whether that is because of some physiological objective or because of the boost in confidence that accompanies taking something you believe works? It is logically unthinkable for you to know, isn’t it? This is the reason that claims of the physiological efficacy of whatever resources can be verified only by means of studies that examine the _comparative_ effect between groups of people who acquire the substance in question and those who take an inert substance. I’m happy that ginseng does it for you, whether its “implication” is physiological or not, but conclusions can’t be drawn from your experience alone.
Secondly (not speaking take this article in particular), while I strongly support the idea that Wikipedia should not _arbitrarily_ subordinate one persuasion of thought to another, that is something very different from writing articles that impetuously advance as possible truth every known view on a subject, no matter how nonconformist. Take an example: The availability of modern medicine undeniably results in notable gains in life expectancy. Hypothetically, suppose that a few individuals, for whatever work out, believe that modern medicine is a hoax and that “infections” are uncommonly caused by invisible garden gnomes that beat people with small hammers while they sleep. We have two views here, but including the blatantly outlandish view, for which no evidence whatsoever is advanced, as a possibly true alternative to the demonstrably admissible view is nothing short of misinformation. (I however think it’s perfectly legitimate to encompass it in the context of “Some people believe … but there’s no evidence for it,” if that has some bearing.)
--Jim 03:00 28 October 2006
"It's not a placebo, because I tried it and believe it works" <-- this is a quite false argument anyways. If it's a placebo, it means you believe it works. Stating that you allow it worked for you is in no way an argument that it's not a placebo.
wikipedia
I think Wikipedia is one of the most valuable tools to learn about, just about, any subject matter... And contrastive with other encyclopedia's and engines of learning (i.e. the US School System), articles' neutrality and correctness are constantly under survelliance by the community of intelligensia. I like Ginseng. I take it in my tea almost every day. I over it does help my energy levels and concentration to some extent (esp when enchanted with ginkgo). Some of the disputable "facts" on this website are very beneficial in learning, at least what people think about ginseng, and the undisputed ones advise us learn what we know about ginseng. I don't think drawing attention to inaccuracies in any theory or underlying cogitation on a subject (i.e. ginseng = good / ginseng = garbage; superstitious crap), no matter how substantiated, should be ignored. If Bush and the Christian opportunely, for example, point out holes in the theory of evolution, they should be heard. But that is not to say that we irregular all logic...
I honestly think this article is terrible
Ginseng has rescently come in my soul. Wikipedia let me down when i tried to learn why i felt so good. This essentials cured my adhd, i feel great 24/7. Never tired, energised, nod off very well, heart feels healthy, can remember everything.
The article is intriguing, and has a lot of potential, but contains WAAAAAYY too many uncited facts. I just pretty much wiped out the side-effects division, and added citations for the little that remains. There's no excuse for adding a announcement--especially a medical one--without a citation to back it up. (Remember there are people out there thick-witted enough to make health-related decisions based on what they announce on the internet.) -Bindingtheory 00:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
A lot of Ginseng's effects have to do with the factors that it is a vasodialator. However, it also contains elements that can cause the sentiment to beat harder (similar to epinephrine), thus the overall effect is an increase in hammering pressure where the systole increases and the diastole deacreases. In a normal healthy solitary that has a balanced diet, there wouldn't be much effect on the body other than it is possible that an increase in vitality. Due to its ability to cause the heart to pump harder, it is contraindicated for people with hypertension and yet conversely can cause hypotension from the vasodialation. In concentrate, it would be the same as taking medications to treat high blood pressure (such as nitroglycerin), then thriving out for a run. The pipes widen but the flow goes up. Keep in mind that when blood flows easier to the take forty winks of the body, muscles work better, cells can produce more energy (ATP), your intellect receives more oxygen and sugars, vitamins, etc. and your overall metabolism goes up. -Zexola 12:40, 30 November 2006 (PST)
agreeable.....
this article covers the true ginsengs, as well as those tradtitionaly called ginseng but hold up no resembulance or simular chemical makeup to that of those of the panax species. although Eleutherococcus senticosus has been proven to be a high adaptogen along with Schizandra chinensis: Stimulating effect of adaptogens: an overview with special reference to their efficacy following single dose administration
according to the doctorine of signatures, ginseng root,which is called tradtionally "man root", air resimulance to a human, has been thought to be a cure all. and given this, there would rather been alot of uses traditionally for ginseng as a cure-all. what is concidered to be "true" ginseng curb ginsenosides, but only 7 of the 28 known ginsenosides are currently used in clinical studies. Korean Ginseng has been proven to be an affective surrogate to convential E.D. treatment methods, so says a july 2006 double blind, placebo controlled burn the midnight oil, where 20 men had improved rigility, penetration, and maintenence then those who haven't had the gensing. you can see for yourself: Exploration of the efficacy of Korean Red Ginseng in the treatment of erectile dysfunction
which in other words, major sex.
not all of the ginsengs provide vasodialating effects: An evaluation of the hemostatic effect of externally applied notoginseng and notoginseng downright saponins
according to a published article, Panax notoginseng (teichi ginseng) flower elicit has been proven to decrease the proliferation of colorectal cancer (cancer of the rectum and the colon) cells. again, see for yourself: Notoginseng enhances anti-cancer result of 5-fluorouracil on human colorectal cancer cells
that's just three of the Assorted types of ginseng (those panax and not) that have had proven studies for just some of their uses.
as for citing references, i can see the novelist's concern with citing a medical statement with no back up. yes, people do indeed use just what they read off the internet and accept it as gospel truth. to some, elvis is silence alive and kicking. bottom line, it's been proven to work. Arisugawa 06:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Arisugawa
although, to this steady old-fashioned, over 2,000 medical studies have been done on ginseng(various species), of those as surplus 300 of those are just clinical trials. And yes, one of those does include ginseng with ginko biloba to disencumber, but not cure, the effects of ADHD: although the effects on the person on this talk verso may be of an exceptional nature. ADHD is a chemical imbalance, and very differnet from ADD. the testimonials on this epoch represent a very small percentage of the body types out there.Arisugawa 03:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)arisugawa
Reasonably after listening to all of the bashing of opposing research, namecalling, and nit-picking, I can only introduce that if you want a good read on some really good research from Canada (locations listed under), then read Null and Opposing Effects of Asian Ginseng (Panax ginseng C.A. Meyer) on Sharp-witted Glycemia
Department of Nutritional Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, Clinical Nutrition and Chance Factor Modification Centre, St. Michael’s Hospital (J.L.S., L.A.L., V.V.), Toronto, CANADA
So let's not bash sources or reports because anyone can separate up "valid" research if you look hard enough... -Zexola 01:07, 28 February 2007 (PST)
Undefiled Ginseng
In the section on differnet types under Red Ginseng the article states
A study of ginseng's effects on rats plain that while both White ginseng and Red ginseng reduce the incidence of cancer, the effects come forth to be greater with Red ginseng .
I can't find any other mention of white ginseng any where on the page. Is this a differnet archetype, a substitute, or what? 64.16.40.18 19:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Ginseng
I am really got that not much has been said roughly hunting and selling wild ginseng. At more than $8 per ounce and the joy of finding a ginseng put during the beautiful autumn months is wonderful,(it is seasonal and can only be hunted a for few months and in most states it is unlawful to take the berries they must be left behind).
It is very difficult to chance but nothing lifts your spirit like finding a ginseng plant.
More later. . . . Daytrivia 02:10, 14 Parade 2007 (UTC)
I only dug the root and sold it. I did not know then nor do I now that using ginseng internally had any after effects. It well-grounded never occurred to me to take it internally. Wild ginseng is a beautiful plant. It is valuable and rare but it assuage grows and awaits to be found. A person can really get close to nature by hunting it.
The root grows something like 1/2 inch every 50 years. Later...... Daytrivia 14:51, 14 Step 2007 (UTC)
We have harvested most of our old growth ginseng and it is increasingly rare. It won't make you dusky out, but it is warming and good for the feeble aged. It is not for, say young men. Because of the rarity and expense it is cooked down to a think by itself and later added to formulas. It doesn't take much. Ksvaughan2 19:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC) (herbalist)
American ginseng is threatened. If you are wildcrafting it, please leave most of it to regrow and plant seedlings in similar areas. There are links for woods-grown ginseng programs in the Empty Ginseng section, including places where you can learn to cultivate it in the woods.
Also you can unbiased harvest leaves, but do it carefully so the plant isn't hurt. In Cherokee medicine, ginseng leaves makes caboodle work better in a formula. It is illegal to harvest the root unless it is cultivated on your earth in most of the US. Licenses may be required to sell it out of state. Ksvaughan2 19:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC) (herbalist)
Horticulture
There should be a stage on growing and caring for wild or potted ginsing plants. 69.242.82.192 10:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a detachment on woods grown ginseng under the Wild Ginseng section which leads you to outside references on how to burgeon it. The North Carolina Arboretum also has information. Also contact United Conceal Savers to get sources of seedlings and direction on cultivation. Ksvaughan2 18:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Pharmacology
In over to horticulture, there should be a section on the pharmacology of ginseng -- what its active chemicals are. How does it vocation? What parts of the body and/or brain does it stimulate? And so on. Zweifel 13:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Side Effects
The side effects department does not cite primary research. In fact none of the citations that the article referencing the side effects uses is extraordinary research. It isn't credible unless the research or the traditional observation cites it. KSVaughan2 04:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Ginseng, Nitric Oxide, and Reproductive Motion
This section doesn't mention Nitric Oxide.
Ginger?
Why would anyone throw into disarray ginseng with ginger? __meco 15:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Rather arguable double blind study
"Of the 625 patients recruited, 124 were excluded from the swotting due to lack of compliance with the treatment, so that 338 patients in group A and 163 patients in agglomeration B completed the study." I can only access the abstract but I find these drop out rates in doubt. Actually technically they are participants excluded, not necessary drop outs. Duplicated-blind studies typically involve random assignment in a 50-50 ratio. Ostensibly the study didn't do this which is not really a problem in itself but it means there could have planned been systematic differences in the participants excluded from each group. 20% of the participants were excluded from this studio so group differences could have easily been created through partial exclusion criteria, especially given the apparent disequal initial group giving out.
It also appears that the subjective measure used was validiated by the same guild that used it potentially in the same study (again only have survey) which only increases my suspicion. Unless someone can find the full artcile and bring around me participant exclusion has not effected the results I think we should remove this investigation from the article or at least state the caveats.JamesStewart7 12:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Wisconsin ginseng copyright molestation
The entire section titled "Wisconsin Ginseng", added in March 2008 by 63.164.145.198, seems to be copied precise from http://www.ginsengboard.com/whywi.cfm. Here's a link from archive.org showing they had the hornbook before it was added to Wikipedia. I've removed the section.
As part of the same set of edits, the unvarying user modified the text "Ginseng that is produced in the United States and Canada is unusually prized" to say "Ginseng that is produced in the United States , especially Wisconsin, is particularly prized" (paralipsis added). I've reverted that change too, but please feel free to add it back if you father a reliable source for it. --mconst (talk) 02:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Etymology
The "etymology" group currently reads (emphasis added):
The English word ginseng derives from the Chinese course rénshēn (simplified: 人参; traditional: 人蔘), literally "man root" (referring to the root's characteristic forked express, resembling the legs of a man). The difference between rénshēn and "ginseng" is explained by the fact that the English manner of speaking derives from a Japanese reading of these Chinese characters. However, the fashionable Japanese word for these characters 人参 (ninjin) means carrot, and ginseng is referred to in Japanese as 朝鮮人参 (chosen ninjin), adopting the baptize of the last dynasty of Korea 朝鮮 (Choson). The Korean name is 고려인삼 高麗人参 (goryo insam).
I haven't been superior to find a source for the sentence in bold. The Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster's, and the American Inheritance Dictionary all claim that English "ginseng" derives directly from Chinese "rénshēn" (although the OED spells it "jên shên", since it uses Shuffle-Giles rather than pinyin.)
I've deleted that sentence for now, but please stroke free to add it back if you have a source for it. I also removed the following sentences (talking nearly Japanese and Korean), since they're no longer really relevant to the article. --mconst (talk) 20:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Koryo Insam
Korea's Goryeo family is famous for one of the first cultivated ginseng, and Korea was No.1 source for best valued ginseng up until Joseon Family. This should be added in cultivation section. --Korsentry 01:20, 17 Procession 2009 (UTC)
New post
I am an American. I have lived in China for over 6 years. I article on the Ginseng
In China usually there are two Ginsengs available. There is the JILIN RED (or Korean Red) and the ghostly-woody American. The Chinese prefer the JILIN RED (or Korean Red) for medicinal purposes. The American Ginseng is verging on never used in medicinal purposes, but it is often given as family gifts. This is possibly due to the expense of imports, the novelty of the product to the many of Chinese Inner Kingdom and the sporadic product distribution network. I will not discuss the American Ginseng. I do not know much roughly it. I believe the above pargraph provides accurate information.
JILIN RED Ginseng is a deep-red wonderful-hard woody root when you buy it from the Chinese herbalist or upscale department store. The the waves red woody root usually is about 3 to 5 inches long about one-third inch tick, tapering, and is UNBREAKABLE. It shatters kind of than breaks. Therefore when you buy the Ginseng always have them slice it for you at the rat on. If you do not, then you have to smash it with a hammer when you get home. This is entirely uneconomical, but it is the only way. Although you can see the Ginseng in pretty golden boxes, if the Ginseng is for you, have them chop it in the snitch on and throw the box away. They know exactly what you are talking about. Oft they have pre sliced red Ginseng arranged like flower petals in little boxes. Selecting your own red root and having it sliced while you delay is the ideal thing to do. The red Jilin Ginseng is not cheap and is used or purchased for medicinal purposes only. I fancy the above pargraph provides accurate information.
The Jilin red Ginseng can be bought pre-sliced or as I have planned mentioned in its full root. To use the full root (length 3-6 inches) the Chinese create like an herbal consomme and confuse the entire root in. The concoction is simmered for about five hours and then poured into a tidy tap-glass jar. Other herbs are added (as well as the necessary rice wine, a brandy sustitute would simply work). Medicinal or herbal shops usually have these concots pre-made. Snakes, lizards, unique animal parts are always seen, snakes and seahorses and so on. You can also have them made to commission. The tap-glass is used throughout the year. The tap-glass is stored in a coold dry place and is incomparably prized. Usually there is a family recepie. Usually you drink a small pellet-glass of this liquid when one is feeling generally low or generally under the unwell. The liquid is not rolled out like a beer barrel at the family function. Rather it is enthusiastically prized, and usually very expensive to make, and it is sipped in small shot-glsses. I accept the above pargraph provides accurate information.
Red Ginseng, when sliced (at the purchase particular) easily dissolves on the tongue and is easily digestable. I suspect that if Ginseng was grown in a warmer ambiance the root would naturally cook underground. Red Ginseng dissolves readily, although it is strangely illogical to sawIt was significance more than gold to the Qing Dynasty of ancient China. Ginseng is used in thousands of formulas to support vivacity and energy. Ginseng is used more than any other herbal remedy. Ginseng contains nitrogenous compounds, minerals, vitamins, fat-soluble compounds, and carbohydrate compounds in its stained root. The herb is costly and not weak to produce and takes six years to reach maturity. Researchers today label ginseng as a steady immune system tonic that can uniquely affect the entire body. Different types of ginseng include Japanese ginseng Panax japonicum, Asian ginseng panax ginseng, Siberian ginseng Eleutherococcus senticosus, and American ginseng. Asian ginseng is the most in favour and grows in China, Korea, and Japan. Siberian ginseng is native to Korea, China, Japan, and Russia. America ginseng can be initiate in forested areas from Quebec to Minnesota and south to Georgia and Oklahoma. American and Asian ginseng, both nearly the same in chemical composition and appearance, are the types recognized for having healing powers. Ginseng grown in North American is continually thought of as the most favorable and costly. It is grown and exported from Wisconsin, British Columbia, and Ontario.
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